Thanks for sharing your tour of the underground places you visited in Jaén. I find it fascinating how many cities build themselves, and then get rebuilt over many decades and centuries later. It makes sense, but it is still so interesting. And what a reflection of the social and political mores of each time. But you are right to highlight the fact that more wasn't done to preserve some of the previous culture.
When we lived in Lyon, it was the first city I knew that just kept expanding outward instead of on top of the previous residents. So all the various cultures and migrations are represented still in the expanding circumference of the city, starting with the romans and moving forward in time. So interesting these older cities, aren't they?
Andrea, this is such a fascinating story. Your photography provides beautiful color and embellishment to your written description. Thanks, as always, for the tour and wonderful history lesson.
Thanks, LLL, for your kind comments. I'm delighted that you and other readers enjoy these posts and learn a little more about Spain. Working on my photography skills....
Fascinating, as always! I can't help but think it was better to blaze your own trail with this tour. Well, maybe not better, but it made for a different experience and probably different reflections too.
Can't wait for the hammam in Granada! I'm a regular at the Madrid one! 🤭 They are owned by the same people, but I've never been to any outside Madrid. Have you been?
Thank you, escritora, amiga, vecina, socia querida, for being such a faithful reader and commenter. I might have learned more on the tour provided I didn't get the same guide who spoke so quickly in a very heavy Andalucian accent that I couldn't understand most of her charla. I was grateful for the opportunity to wander around alone or with a guide and group.
I've also been to the hamman in Madrid (maybe we were in the same bath together prior to meeting though you won't find me in the cold one) and have never been to another in the country. Soon!
That accent takes some getting used to, you are right!
I like the idea of us crossing paths without knowing we would one day meet 😊 I force myself to plunge in the cold pool though emphasis fully on ‘force’!
Thank you, Marjie. Yes, here is solid evidence that some parts of history repeat themselves. The good and positive actions and decisions take place again and again too but somehow the nasty parts stick out, at least right now. I wonder how people a hundred years from now will look back on this period. Or even twenty.....
Beautiful post.... and much needed on a day when I needed distraction from the news and the horrible things happening in the international development community. I'm taking hope from your post that this is not a forever state - there will be a time when all of this is behind us and we can rebuild again. XOXO
Thank you for your kind words and giving us some hope that this is not forever. Civilizations can be re-built, which is of course just what ours needs. NOW. The problem is what is destroyed to get to the point of re-construction. But let's hope we don't come to that point. Adelante!
Definitivamente eres mi escritora favorita, actualmente, eres increíble para describir de tal forma q atrapas al lector de tal forma q uno quiere seguir leyendo para conocer en q para la historia, gracias por compartir no solo tus viajes sino los aspectos históricos y comentarios interesantes que logran meterlo a uno en cada relato.
Mi melocotón!! Gracias por los comentarios generosos y sinceros. Te agradezco mas que podrías saber. Solamente mi mama me decía que yo era su escritora favorita :) y claro ella era un poco sesgada. Tu no jejejeje. Me alegro mucho que entiendas la forma de escribir que trato siempre de mejorar y lograr. TQM y no solamente por los comentarios bonitos.
My opinion of the priests and jurists who administered the Inquisition is not positive. The argument that one should "consider them in the context of the time in which they lived." does not impress me. I believe that there are many contemporary accounts demonstrating other moralities, and not just those of the subjugated and oppressed Jews and Muslims. Thanks for the story!
Agreed, Tim. I think many people ask themselves what they would do in the same situation, hoping that they would do what's right. Most people aren't that brave. Just look at our political situation now where our nation's leaders are spineless and fearful. Very sad no matter what century we're in.
Thank you for sharing the lovely tour in Jaén. The Hamman also calls my attention. And... as all your stories, I felt as if I were part of the tour. Also, beautiful photos...!!!
Thanks for sharing your tour of the underground places you visited in Jaén. I find it fascinating how many cities build themselves, and then get rebuilt over many decades and centuries later. It makes sense, but it is still so interesting. And what a reflection of the social and political mores of each time. But you are right to highlight the fact that more wasn't done to preserve some of the previous culture.
When we lived in Lyon, it was the first city I knew that just kept expanding outward instead of on top of the previous residents. So all the various cultures and migrations are represented still in the expanding circumference of the city, starting with the romans and moving forward in time. So interesting these older cities, aren't they?
Wow, how interesting about Lyon. I'd like to see how that plays out on the streets and neighborhoods. Maybe someday...
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Andrea, this is such a fascinating story. Your photography provides beautiful color and embellishment to your written description. Thanks, as always, for the tour and wonderful history lesson.
Thanks, LLL, for your kind comments. I'm delighted that you and other readers enjoy these posts and learn a little more about Spain. Working on my photography skills....
Fascinating, as always! I can't help but think it was better to blaze your own trail with this tour. Well, maybe not better, but it made for a different experience and probably different reflections too.
Can't wait for the hammam in Granada! I'm a regular at the Madrid one! 🤭 They are owned by the same people, but I've never been to any outside Madrid. Have you been?
Thank you, escritora, amiga, vecina, socia querida, for being such a faithful reader and commenter. I might have learned more on the tour provided I didn't get the same guide who spoke so quickly in a very heavy Andalucian accent that I couldn't understand most of her charla. I was grateful for the opportunity to wander around alone or with a guide and group.
I've also been to the hamman in Madrid (maybe we were in the same bath together prior to meeting though you won't find me in the cold one) and have never been to another in the country. Soon!
That accent takes some getting used to, you are right!
I like the idea of us crossing paths without knowing we would one day meet 😊 I force myself to plunge in the cold pool though emphasis fully on ‘force’!
You are a braver woman than I am.
The more things change, the more they seem to stay the same, don’t they? This was a lovely piece. Thank you.
Thank you, Marjie. Yes, here is solid evidence that some parts of history repeat themselves. The good and positive actions and decisions take place again and again too but somehow the nasty parts stick out, at least right now. I wonder how people a hundred years from now will look back on this period. Or even twenty.....
Beautiful post.... and much needed on a day when I needed distraction from the news and the horrible things happening in the international development community. I'm taking hope from your post that this is not a forever state - there will be a time when all of this is behind us and we can rebuild again. XOXO
Thank you for your kind words and giving us some hope that this is not forever. Civilizations can be re-built, which is of course just what ours needs. NOW. The problem is what is destroyed to get to the point of re-construction. But let's hope we don't come to that point. Adelante!
Definitivamente eres mi escritora favorita, actualmente, eres increíble para describir de tal forma q atrapas al lector de tal forma q uno quiere seguir leyendo para conocer en q para la historia, gracias por compartir no solo tus viajes sino los aspectos históricos y comentarios interesantes que logran meterlo a uno en cada relato.
Mi melocotón!! Gracias por los comentarios generosos y sinceros. Te agradezco mas que podrías saber. Solamente mi mama me decía que yo era su escritora favorita :) y claro ella era un poco sesgada. Tu no jejejeje. Me alegro mucho que entiendas la forma de escribir que trato siempre de mejorar y lograr. TQM y no solamente por los comentarios bonitos.
My opinion of the priests and jurists who administered the Inquisition is not positive. The argument that one should "consider them in the context of the time in which they lived." does not impress me. I believe that there are many contemporary accounts demonstrating other moralities, and not just those of the subjugated and oppressed Jews and Muslims. Thanks for the story!
Agreed, Tim. I think many people ask themselves what they would do in the same situation, hoping that they would do what's right. Most people aren't that brave. Just look at our political situation now where our nation's leaders are spineless and fearful. Very sad no matter what century we're in.
Thank you for sharing the lovely tour in Jaén. The Hamman also calls my attention. And... as all your stories, I felt as if I were part of the tour. Also, beautiful photos...!!!
Thank you, querida Sonia! I appreciate your comments and love thinking you were on the tour with me. I wish!!